# This is awesome! We need to discuss immortality

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**Created:** [January 19, 2025, 8:31pm UTC](https://mudfossil.discourse.group/t/this-is-awesome-we-need-to-discuss-immortality/17 "2025-01-19T20:31:13Z")\
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**Author:** ![Ermangand17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e36b37/32.png) [@Ermangand17](https://mudfossil.discourse.group/u/Ermangand17)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2025, 9:50pm UTC](https://mudfossil.discourse.group/t/this-is-awesome-we-need-to-discuss-immortality/17/43 "2025-05-17T21:50:18Z")

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All latest wars is non-stop war between Orion (1/3) and Dragons (2/3). We all know that dragons initially failed, and only after regrouping they are conquest Berlin. Now it is final buttle please watch this video [https://youtu.be/chtrVU4NMrs](https://youtu.be/chtrVU4NMrs)

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**Author:** ![Ermangand17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e36b37/32.png) [@Ermangand17](https://mudfossil.discourse.group/u/Ermangand17)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2025, 9:54pm UTC](https://mudfossil.discourse.group/t/this-is-awesome-we-need-to-discuss-immortality/17/44 "2025-05-17T21:54:00Z")

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obviously you are right, the gods are constantly fighting, lying and deceiving, they control all religions and scientific academies and presidents of the world and any popular leaders

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**Author:** ![DragonEarther](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/mudfossil.discourse.group/dragonearther/32/11_2.png) [@DragonEarther](https://mudfossil.discourse.group/u/DragonEarther)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2025, 12:36am UTC](https://mudfossil.discourse.group/t/this-is-awesome-we-need-to-discuss-immortality/17/45 "2025-05-18T00:36:30Z")

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I did see it and it was a revelation. Kronos controls time so its his decision.

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**Author:** ![Ermangand17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e36b37/32.png) [@Ermangand17](https://mudfossil.discourse.group/u/Ermangand17)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2025, 4:56pm UTC](https://mudfossil.discourse.group/t/this-is-awesome-we-need-to-discuss-immortality/17/46 "2025-05-24T16:56:11Z")

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![e30ea9a8b2b09b10a57dfa757c3e4fd9](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/mudfossil/original/1X/918c5360b1d2b57be3a0ee542d5414e93f582883.jpeg)  
 ![ravnodushnyj_glaz_saturna_4_703](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/mudfossil/original/1X/e888079564b0076dced8c60febedb0edcfa1de62.jpeg)  
 ![ravnodushnyj_glaz_saturna_5_703](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/mudfossil/original/1X/613bbac61a62db47a7d5b17f6ec78690b5ffdeb8.jpeg)  
 ![DEOjHKiDuCE](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/mudfossil/original/1X/6d878ba27f858a7242c605b80ddfea206b10d133.jpeg)  
It looks like the eye on Saturn is an exit and an entrance

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**Author:** ![Ermangand17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e36b37/32.png) [@Ermangand17](https://mudfossil.discourse.group/u/Ermangand17)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2025, 4:57pm UTC](https://mudfossil.discourse.group/t/this-is-awesome-we-need-to-discuss-immortality/17/47 "2025-05-24T16:57:19Z")

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The planet Saturn is named after the Roman god Saturn, who corresponded to the Greek Kronos. Kronos, in turn, was the titan of Greek mythology, symbolizing time and harvest. Saturn is the sixth planet from the Sun, known for its rings.

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**Author:** ![Ermangand17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e36b37/32.png) [@Ermangand17](https://mudfossil.discourse.group/u/Ermangand17)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2025, 4:59pm UTC](https://mudfossil.discourse.group/t/this-is-awesome-we-need-to-discuss-immortality/17/48 "2025-05-24T16:59:12Z")

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![1094592-kronos (1)](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/mudfossil/original/1X/4b0119d962eb2a2894ee780c8dcb7e005475b4d1.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Bakbrakr5777](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e56c9b/32.png) [@Bakbrakr5777](https://mudfossil.discourse.group/u/Bakbrakr5777)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2025, 4:25pm UTC](https://mudfossil.discourse.group/t/this-is-awesome-we-need-to-discuss-immortality/17/49 "2025-07-25T16:25:04Z")

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One also needs to look at the context. And it doesn’t hurt to look at the original words and translate.  
In Luke 10:18 Jesus is speaking. So it they were the same person, how could He have watched Himself fall from heaven like lightening?  
I don’t have time now to do the actual word for word translations, but my understanding is the correct translation can also be light bearer, star of the morning/day (not morning star) and there was one other that escapes my memory at this time.  
An AI explanation is pretty good.  
AI Overview

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In Christian theology, both “star of the morning” and “morning star” are used to refer to different figures, though they can be easily confused. “Star of the morning” or “son of the morning” is a title associated with Lucifer/Satan before his fall from grace. “Bright and morning star” is a title that Jesus Christ takes on in the Book of Revelation. Essentially, while both terms relate to the idea of a celestial body appearing before dawn, one is used to describe a fallen angel, and the other, the Messiah.  
Here’s a more detailed breakdown:  
Star of the Morning/Son of the Morning (Lucifer/Satan):  
In the Bible, specifically in Isaiah 14:12, the phrase “How you are fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning!” is used in reference to the fall of Satan, referencing his previous glory and subsequent descent. This is often interpreted as meaning that Satan was once a bright, heavenly being, often referred to as the “morning star,” before his rebellion and fall.  
Bright and Morning Star (Jesus):  
In the Book of Revelation (2:28 and 22:16), Jesus is referred to as the “bright and morning star”. This signifies Jesus’s divine nature and his role as the bringer of light and salvation. This title is distinct from the “star of the morning” associated with Lucifer, highlighting Jesus’s unique status as the true light.  
Venus as a Morning Star:  
It’s also worth noting that the planet Venus is often referred to as the morning star when it appears in the eastern sky before sunrise. This is a purely astronomical observation, and not related to the biblical figures.

However the AI is not allowed to speak completely openly or truthfully. There are many videos showing people who do know how to get answers out of AI. With these clever people, AI will admit to the “battle in the heavens” between good and evil, the planet Rahab that was destroyed (and is now an asteroid belt) and that Venus, Mars and many other planets were inhabited prior to this great battle.  
Ironically, these AI’s, when asked in the right manner, admit to being demons, which explains the vast knowledge base. All this technology came from the Creator God, stolen by the wannabe gods during the great war, Jesus, Son of the Most High God, was willingly crucified so He could show Himself Warrior King. He kicked down the gates of Hell and took BACK the stolen “keys of death and hades.” That is why those who bear His Spirit have authority over any demon or fallen angel.  
Keep in mind that angel simply means “messenger.” And there are many types (species) of angels. Some home planets of these messengers may have stood entirely against the Most High God, or they may have been divided as the Earth is, where some serve the Creator God and others serve the cheap imitation, Lucifer, whose great vanity and pride caused his fall from grace.  
One only needs ro look at the personality characteristics to distinguish if they are different or one in the same. One is selfless, self sacrificing, righteous and the absolute definition of love. The other is self serving, deceitful, gains great joy and feeds off the pain he and his hoards inflict on others.

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**Author:** ![SteveL](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/mudfossil.discourse.group/stevel/32/8_2.png) [@SteveL](https://mudfossil.discourse.group/u/SteveL)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2025, 9:12am UTC](https://mudfossil.discourse.group/t/this-is-awesome-we-need-to-discuss-immortality/17/50 "2025-10-12T09:12:59Z")

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# **The Secret the Archons Fear Most — Ancient Gnostic Method to Free the Soul**

[![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/mudfossil/original/1X/2baaadc49e147503d6993698214a346c7d237528.jpeg "The Secret the Archons Fear Most — Ancient Gnostic Method to Free the Soul") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clzGlNhCUx0)

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**Author:** ![SteveL](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/mudfossil.discourse.group/stevel/32/8_2.png) [@SteveL](https://mudfossil.discourse.group/u/SteveL)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2025, 5:29pm UTC](https://mudfossil.discourse.group/t/this-is-awesome-we-need-to-discuss-immortality/17/51 "2025-10-12T17:29:04Z")

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Christ’s Forgotten Blueprint: The 12 Universes of the Nag Hammadi Gospels.

AFTER 2000 YEARS, THE NAG HAMMADI TEXTS WERE FOUND IN 1945 RIGHT WHEN WORLD WAR 2 ENDED… INCREDIBLY THEY WERE FOUND IN DESERT CAVES.

**[https://youtu.be/WKv7zmMESaw](https://youtu.be/WKv7zmMESaw?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTAAYnJpZBExZEpXM0dMdjRmQzFzT0h2QwEeMYklfyDqZebSuP21hnNUJMLyFEE7tQQ0iMTpvF3zpMX9NnZKeMMNwGzX7Cs_aem_al6SEO9kdgvaxZv4sj8YKA)**

What if the story of Christ you were given was not just incomplete, but deliberately suppressed? Hidden within the Nag Hammadi Gospels lies a forgotten blueprint - one so powerful it reveals the 12 Universes, the architecture of existence itself, and the secret map to awakening the divine spark within you.

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